Tuesday, March 25, 2014

2002 Roadtrek 190 Popular for sale $25,000

SOLD--SOLD--SOLD--SOLD--SOLD
FOR $25,000

2002 Roadtrek 190Popular for sale. This is a remarkable little Class B filled with Roadtrek's clever design and premium build-outs. Built from a Chevy 3500 Van with a V8 engine, this is the ultimate RV for a couple looking to see the country or a family looking to have weekend fun at an RV campground. We have toured Yellowstone, boondocked in the forest up north, tailgated, dry camped at a music festival, and used it as a staging site for mountain bike racing.

It is like new inside and out--the 114K miles belie how well this rig has been cared for. Previous owners mostly used it for driving to and from snowbird locations, so the camping  features have been lightly used. 

It has a cream and beige exterior, taupe interior, oak cabinets, and Corian counters and tabletops. 2-burner propane stovetop with cover, microwave, stainless steel backsplash, 3 way fridge/freezer (AC/12volt/propane) and a pull-out counter top increases work space. Lots and lots of storage in such a compact package. 

New carpet front and back, new custom water hog floor mats over all uncarpeted flooring and driver/passenger footwells. Chrome wheels, 3 leather seats. Upgraded with Pioneer in-dash GPS with iPhone/iPod connector and DVD/CD/AM/FM/backup camera, plus Panasonic woofer/tweeter front speakers. Custom screen house and ground tarp for Fiamma awning, new custom opaque curtains and light-blocking shades. Stainless Olympia propane grill (included) attaches to propane tank quick-connect for great tailgating. Twin beds with center night stand converts to king sized bed. 3rd seat and passenger front seat convert into a cozy single bed for a child. 

New front tires and alignment, new gas fill tube, fuel filter, and fuel sensor. Portable macerator (included) with quick-connect for easy waste management. Class III hitch with 5000lb rating, though we never towed anything with it. Onan 2800 generator, new "house" battery, new indoor and outdoor shower heads/tubing. 

Our family LOVES this rig and will miss it; tears have been shed as we ready it for sale. The only reason we are selling is that we need 2 beds up front, since our family is growing. We needed to upsize so we bought an RS Adventurous E-Trek.




What follows is a pictorial tour of our beloved "bus":
Dependable Chevy Express van chassis.  Attractive white/beige paint scheme is in excellent condition.  Lots of chrome.  At just over 19 feet, this camper takes up one parking space and is very easy to maneuver.  It drives like a van, handles nimbly (for an RV!) and is stable on the road.  


On this side, the storage bays in the skirting are visible (L to R) for the sewage/gray water valves, long storage bay for hoses/cords/lawn chairs/tables, etc., and the city water/tank filling/outdoor shower equipment.  Vents for the refrigerator, range hood, and water heater compartment are seen. 
Rear doors open wide for storage and loading.  Chrome bumper, trailer or bike rack hitch, propane connections in compartment.  Note that A/C unit is built into the roof so it looks like a conversion van.  This “incognito” appearance makes it possible to park the unit in neighborhoods that ban RVs.  
All tires and wheels are in beautiful condition.  New tires were put on the front this year and all mechanicals checked annually at Chevy dealer.

 The camper is in beautiful condition.  Dependable Chevy Express van chassis, camper made in Canada.  We have added enhanced mirrors to original equipment for blind spot viewing.
The camper includes a capacious side entry, running board/step with skid resistant coating, a storage bay we use for leveling blocks, another storage “drawer” for the house batteries (behind the rear wheel), a “porch light” near mid door, and a Fiamma awning which matches the paint scheme.  We had a custom screen house made for the awning in colors that match the camper. 
There is a long exterior storage bay under the camper on the driver’s side.  The bay is lighted and is used to store hoses for fresh and gray water, as well as the electrical cord.
Macerator pump is stored in the side bay along with its hose.  It hooks up to the black water hose end (no need to extend) on the camper.  The power cord is hooked up, the black water gate opened, the pump turned on, and the sewage is quickly macerated and expelled.  Gray water tank (washing water)  is emptied through the unit next, cleaning it out.  Detachable pump has advantage of easy cleaning if anything ever gets stuck.  “Installed” versions have some provision for this but it is more difficult.  Pump makes dump time very quick and easy, as well as sanitary and foolproof.
A view down the length of the larger exterior storage bay.  It has a hinge that props the lid up, 2 locks, and contains the power cord (which can be seen in the photo) for plugging the camper in when in an R.V. park.  Lid has storage clips for the awning winder also.  We have stored 3 folding “bag” chairs and a camp table in this bay as well as some water toys and game equipment.  
We have a Olympian stainless steel grill with ceramic grill surface.  It hooks up to the main propane tank via this quick-connect hose, located here in the compartment where the propane is filled and the on/off valve is located.  The grill is included in the sale of the vehicle, and rides in the rear under-dinette storage area in its own zippered duffle bag.
This side bay door conceals the black and gray water dump valves.  It is next to the large side bay where we store the macerator and black/gray water dumping hose.  Manual has simple instructions for dumping. 
The outdoor shower (hose currently removed since winterizing the water system) is very handy after bike races!  Mechanical functions are concealed in easy reach in skirting of exterior of vehicle. The "city water" connection is the brass fitting; the red handle selects for city water (vertical as shown) or fresh water tank fill selection (handle horizontal). The white box is cable TV.
The generator is in the driver side rear of the vehicle and provides ample power.  It runs off the gas in the tank, and shuts off automatically when one reaches 1/4 tank.  We have dry camped for days in hot summer conditions, running the A/C continuously, and not run out of fuel.   


We installed a Pioneer CD/DVD/radio player with GPS and a great backup camera.   There is also a lead for hooking up an iPod to play through the system or to charge your iPhone (located below in the glove compartment/console).  Note also Waterhog mats for driver and passenger, added after new carpet was installed.
An example of the (updateable) moving maps available on the GPS, which also has extensive search functions.


Dashboard instruments are full featured and intuitive.

The sunscreen is mounted on either side of the front window and pulls out to fasten at the center with velcro tabs.  It keeps the interior nice and cool when parked.  Easy to fold back into its housing.



The very comfortable cockpit contains swiveling leather seats, (armrests shown up here), and a console with drink wells and other compartments including a glove box containing a cord for iPhone charging or iPod connection to the sound system.  There are map lights, a sunglass cubby, a reflective velcro-fastening accordion pleated sun screen for use while parked (shown in use here), and custom sewn privacy curtains for use when parked.  



The front of the camper is full of light and storage.  Deep storage cupboard above the cockpit is easy to reach.  Levels installed on its door face and on the range hood make leveling easy.  Digital clock.  Two deep shelves on either side of the camper sized perfectly to hold boutique tissue box, paper towel roll, many other items.  Custom draperies with velcro closure and black-out lining throughout camper can be removed and washed. 


Comfortable leather captain’s chairs that swivel 360 allow the cockpit to become living space when parked.  Tall wardrobe contains one shelf at top and stores a multi-leaf Corian top table for the front of the camper.  Skylights add natural light.

Generator control, porch light, tank guages, water pump and battery/electrical controls are conveniently located at face level here.


The three leather front seats can be swiveled for conversation, dining (when front table is inserted), and games.  Note new carpet in front section, custom Waterhog matting in middle.  This has been a perfect home on the road for us, our child, and our dog!

The front of the camper can also be set up for dining.  A Corian topped table with leaf extensions fits into a socket in the floor and stores easily when not in use.  Chairs swivel to accomodate 3 diners or game-players.  This allows the rear bed to remain made up if desired.

The rear passenger seat sits atop a capacious drawer, which, when pulled out, forms a support to transform this seat and the passenger cockpit seat into the third bed.  Cup holder on door.

The back of the 3rd seat detaches and rests on the extended drawer frame to form a bed with the front passenger seat.  Darlexx (two ply lycra) magentic black-out panels are easily applied to the side windows and fold quickly for storage during the day.


Although it takes up one parking space and is very easy to drive, the 190P is spacious and bright inside, with many amenities.  Our family (including Prince the Havanese) has found it very comfortable.

The spacious rear dinette area has a Corian tabletop and new carpet and drapes.  

The bathroom becomes very large when the privacy doors are opened and fastened against the kitchen cabinets.  The kitchen sink is used for washing.  The shower is located in the aisle of the motorhome, where the floor is lowered molded fiberglass with a trough drain under a lift-up cover.  As you can see, the shower curtain pulls around to create a large space under the vent fan. 

Another view of the bathroom. with privacy door opened.  Thetford dual flushing toilet, plus attached storage for table legs, broom, and bowl brush.  Shelf above toilet provides ample storage area.  Mirrors inside and outside the bathroom door.

If desired, the cupboard door at the rear dinette area can be opened and fastened for privacy while using the bathroom or changing.  Tinted windows make it nearly impossible for anyone to see inside, so we have not used this feature much, but it could be helpful.  Notice the nice shelving inside the cupboard - the wiring chase is topped with a tray shelf so small items do not roll out.


A view of the kitchen from the dinette area, toward the cockpit.

Kitchen features stainless steel backsplash, Corian countertop, and oak cabinets that use every inch of space wisely.  2 burner propane stove under lift-off counter section.  Microwave, 3-way (AC/DC/Propane) Dometic Americana refrigerator/freezer with custom painted magnetic “granite” front panel.  Tall wardrobe cupboard with handy tray shelf above it for small items.

The roll-top cupboard base has a pull-out that can be extended either halfway (as shown) or full extend.  This adds workspace to the kitchen.

Here is the inside of the refrigerator/freezer - surprisingly roomy.  Door has Dometic’s “magic finger” strip in the lower shelf, which are replaceable via Camping World catalog if desired.  Front of door shelves can be removed for washing.  We include a door propping bar for airing when not in use, which keeps the refrigerator clean and dry.

A two burner stainless steel propane stove by Suburban hides under a section of Corian countertop when not in use.  A vent hood with filter and light is above it.  Stainless backsplash is easy to clean.

The 3-way power Dometic refrigerator has a custom painted “granite” panel that is magnetic for note posting.  The tambour door conceals shelves with dividers and has a pull-out counter extension, creating an “L” shaped workspace.  Hot water heater control is conveniently located above the sink.

Lowered molded fiberglass floor in center of camper accomodates floor drain for showering.  We include custom- fitted Waterhog mats topped with a memory gel foam kitchen mat.  Cupboards below the dinette conceal water tanks and pump as well as access the rear storage.  We replaced the original water pump with a new, nearly silent model because we found it better for sleeping.

Here you can see how the lowered molded fiberglass floor in the center serves as a shower pan.  A trough across the floor guides water into a floor drain.  This photo shows the trough cover in place - it pulls up easily using the finger hole on the end.  Waterhog mats are carved leaf design with a rubber backing - good insulation underfoot for warm comfort, and they trap dirt and debris.

This cabinet originally held a traditional t.v./DVD player and the cable and other hookups and electrical is still inside.  The bottom pulls out and can extend kitchen counterspace (originally allowed for swivel display of t.v.).  We removed t.v. because it was so bulky and we use our iPads, DVD player, etc.  We installed a shelf in the middle of the t.v. compartment, creating additional storage flexibility.

There is lots of room for family dining (or puzzles, play-dough, games, etc.) at rear table.  Corian top is easy to clean; if stained it can be sanded and buffed.  A/C + heat pump occupies center upper space, but side cabinets go all the way to rear of vehicle.  Heat pump can be used for heat in less cold temps; we use propane furnace for colder days.

This nightstand came with the camper and has a Corian top that attaches with Velcro.  It sits on the laminated support using feet that insert into holes, and it is easily moved.  We have not used it on the road (left it at home) but believe it would fit under the bed when the bed was made.  You can also use the rear beds as twin beds; just remove the bolsters and don’t slide the bedboard across.

A view of the king size bed made up - we have found it very comfortable.  We have used a fitted sheet with a down comforter, putting our pillows into decorative shams on the sofas when the bed is not made.  We can put the comforter and bedding into the rear section of one of the upper cabinets and still have room for a bin of clothes that is as wide as the cupboard door.

Cupboards flanking the A/C-heat pump unit go all the way to the rear of the vehicle.  Black out panels visible in the cupboards are made of Darlexx (two ply lycra material) attach with sewn-in magnets to rear van door’s windows for additional light control when sleeping in. 

Screen house, patio mat, grill, spare tire, etc. all stowed in lower compartment. Custom draperies throughout camper have black-out backing and remove for washing.  

Doors swing out wide for loading; large capacity storage beneath dinette can be accessed also from inside.  Propane valve in rear plus quick-connect for included stainless steel grill.  A/C incorporated into roofline.




6 comments:

  1. This Van looks awesome but I think your asking price is a few thousand too high. According to The Kelly Blue Book site, with a 12yr old van, and the mileage, even with it being in excellent condition (with minor rust on some interior hinges and under the van) It would only book out at about $18,000 being a used van, 12yrs old and from a private owner. Would you be willing to come down on your price to around 18-20? I know a person who is interested but also feels the asking price is too high.

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  2. Hi Melissa! Thanks for your comments. I actually ran the NADA RV Blue Book, where you can check off exactly which options are on the rig. Base price for the 2002 190P is $17,990 (low) to $21,550 (average), but that doesn't include any of the options. Here is my printout from the NADA site--you can click on the blue "change" link and it will take you directly to the NADA site where you can verify my result.
    Here is the NADA Blue Book range and all the options checked:

    Values

    Suggested
    List Price Low
    Retail Average
    Retail
    Base Price $58,097 $17,890 $21,550
    Options: (change)

    11,000 BTU $175 $210
    Furnace (13,000-17,000 BTU) $50 $60
    Microwave Oven $65 $80
    Gas Grill Cook Top $305 $370
    Water Heater 6 Gallon Gas/Elec. $55 $65
    17" Flatscreen TV $210 $255
    AM/FM/CD Stereo $85 $105
    DVD Player $95 $115
    2 - 3 KW Gas $425 $515
    Aluminum RV Wheels (Set of 4) $455 $550
    Auxiliary Battery (Each) $25 $30
    Awning 10' - 12' (Each) $155 $185
    Cabinetry Upgrade (Deluxe) $610 $735
    Ceiling Fan $35 $45
    Cruise Control $35 $40
    Driver Side Door W/ Power Window $170 $205
    GPS Navigation System $1,135 $1,365
    LPG Gas/Smoke Detector $30 $35
    Mirrors (Power W/Defrost) $85 $105
    Outside Shower $35 $40
    Power Roof Vent $55 $65
    Rear Vision Camera/Monitor $350 $420
    Security System (Basic) $100 $120
    Tilt Wheel $35 $40
    Trailer Hitch $35 $45
    TOTAL PRICE: $58,097 $22,700 $27,350

    Sorry it didn't keep the original formatting, but the last line represents total price for List (new), Low price, and Average price including all options. So you can see I have chosen the mid-point between low price and average price. Thanks for asking, but I think this creampuff will sell just fine at this price:-) Your friend really should see this one in person and compare it to others to see how nice this one really is!
    Steve

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  3. Steve,

    I can see what you mean by all the options that are listed but some of those things like the flat screen TV you can add some money to it but I think some of the prices listed for some of the features seem to be what you may have paid to put those features into it, yet how long have they been in there? How often have then been used? From reading that your family really enjoyed this Van and used it a lot, I would guess that these things were used quite a bit and the value of some of those features would drop. But with all the nice options aside, you really have to look at the year of the vehicle, the mileage currently on it, how it runs, if there seems to be any leaks or minor repairs that need to be done (looking under the hood and test driving it would help someone buying it determine some of these things). However, I think that the price you are asking is if you were selling it at a dealership, and what a dealership could sell it for. I shared the link with my friend that was interested and a couple people who know quite a bit about vehicles and selling them and one guy in particular knew surprisingly a lot about these types of vans and he said that the features are nice and for the year, it was well taken care of. But, it's a buyers fact that they will look first at how old it is, and how many miles are on it and with that high of mileage, $25,000 is a bit too high. He said your ball park for this RV that looks like it was converted to an RV from an Express van is worth about $20,000 tops and that's if all of the features were rarely used... I am totally not trying to say that your RV is not a pretty sweet RV because if I had the money, I would make you an offer, but I also would think this price is a bit too high and would ask if you would lower it to at least $20,000. My friend said that he would not be able to pay over $19,000 for it, so he said he would pass on it and he wishes you the best and he hopes you find a good home for it. :) It is VERY COOL though. :)

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  4. Melissa, I think you misunderstood the list I posted: the values listed there are the values that NADA Blue Book assigns if the RV has that particular option. It takes into account the age and mileage of the RV already. None of those values reflect what I paid for the option (if it wasn't already on the RV when I bought it), only what value the Blue Book allots to an RV that has it. Your friend is entitled to his/her opinion, but this price is based on the middle of the Blue Book value for this 190P exactly as it is currently set up. I hope your friend finds an RV as well loved and cared for as this one--he is passing up a great camper!

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  5. You have done an outstanding job of describing and picturing the details of this Roadtrek!! I have never seen such a thorough explanation! I just wish I could afford to purchase it as a surprise for my husband :) You should have absolutely no trouble selling it. Happy camping!

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  6. I adore your Roadtrek; just not sure about the mileage. Am recovering from surgery, at the moment. Blessings, Lynn (fellow blogger of Life with Lynnie

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